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  1. Nckkangrga

    Nckkangrga

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    This is a topic that is talked about around my parts ALOT more then most will admit. I believe the reason is because there are SO MANY different types of tactical flashlights on the market today. Many, including myself, have also dealt with flashlights which performed GREAT for the first few months and then began draining power FAST, or just not as reliable as it used to be.

    What do you guys think? For tactical, home defense, in your glove box, or in your back pocket, which flashlights are you guys using? How long have you been using it and why did you choose that specific light? Do you believe a light with the "strobe light" feature is worth the money or not?

    Share your experiences!

    Thanks,
    Nick-

    # Posted 4 months ago
  2. GrantCunningham

    GrantCunningham

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    Boy, that's weird - I'm literally in the middle of writing an article about this very topic! (Flashlights are a SERIOUS addiction of mine, and I consider them to be a vital self defense tool deserving of a proper investment.)

    You say that those you've used are "great for the first few months and then began draining power." Can you be more specific? Are you using a rechargeable flashlight, or one with replaceable batteries? Care to name the make/model?

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    # Posted 4 months ago
  3. Nckkangrga

    Nckkangrga

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    Not at all,
    I cannot speak for people who have also had problems with their lights, but I started using a Streamlight Scorpion (because my snap On Dealer sold them on his truck). I was very impressed with it at first, very bright, seemed to be a good light, and then began having issues. I would push the button switch to turn it on and it would not engage, or I would drop it, and it would turn off. I would have to take it apart, and reassemble before it would start working again. The batteries seem to drain awfully fast compared to when it was new. I did not use rechargeable batteries. When you take a look at the "flashlight" world, its unbelievable what is out.

    # Posted 4 months ago
  4. GrantCunningham

    GrantCunningham

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    Was this the LED Scorpion or the incandescent version?

    If incandescent, I think the battery drain issue was probably one of perception more than reality. There's nothing in that version of the light to make it drain faster over time. I remember when I got my first lithium-powered light, and I noticed the same thing. The batteries weren't draining faster, I just got more sensitive to the dimming of the light.

    If it's the LED, I suspect the electronics have developed a fault. The LED Scorpion has a pretty darned good regulator circuit, and is not known for being a battery hog.

    The other issues, however, are certainly valid. The incandescent Scorpion uses a bi-pin bulb, where the bulb is pushed into a socket. If the light is dropped, the inertia of the bulb causes it to pull out of the socket slightly - sometimes enough to affect the electrical contact, causing intermittent outages.

    In both versions, the rear switch is not all that robust, and I've seen them fail. The aluminum body is not anodized, which means that it can develop a small amount of surface corrosion at the junction of the body and head. This leads to intermittent electrical contact, which would be consistent with that you're experiencing.

    As a utility light, the Scorpion isn't bad. It's cheap, puts out a lot of light, and is generally durable enough for infrequent use. As a defensive tool, though, it's just not built for ultimate reliability. Good lights aren't cheap, sadly, and a decent reliable unit will easily cost double what the Scorpion does.

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    # Posted 4 months ago
  5. ZenGunFighter

    ZenGunFighter

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    Things sure are different from the days where the choice was Maglight or Streamlight. :)

    I did the Surefire thing back in the 90's. Discovered the 6P in '94 at the IALEFI conference. Got the 9P, Executive, M3, M6, and G2.
    But about 3 years ago discovered Fenix. A L1D has been my EDC since then a small light that uses 1AA battery but puts out 80 lumens for over an hour. I like the strobe function too. Plus I can dial it down to 14 lumens for loooonnnnnggggg run times and it has a SOS function.
    The only downside is the button doesnt' lend itself to 'tactical' use with a pistol.

    I haven't use the Surefires since I discovered the Fenix. Then last year I got a Wolfeyes LED replacement bulb. 180 lumens, longer run times, and it doesn't have a filament to break or burn out.
    Now I'll pull out my G2 on occasion....

    But mostly, when I need a light, I use AAA headlamps, usually a Black Diamond. Long run times, adjustable brightness levels, and shines where I'm looking.

    Eastern thought meets Western GunFighting
    # Posted 2 months ago
  6. ludwig

    ludwig

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    I carry a Fenix P3D. My next personal light will likely be a 4Sevens Quark 123^2 R5 edition (4sevens.com). For power outages we have Nightstar flashlights (appliedinnotech.com).

    I'd like to move up to something brighter (Olight M21 or better). I just don't like the user interfaces of most other lights.

    # Posted 2 months ago
  7. WindyCityKali

    WindyCityKali

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    I've drunk the kool-aid - I admit it freely.

    Surefire. I carry the E1e as my EDC. Great light with the LED head. I have several other SF models, one every accessable firearm. My old standby 6P with an LED and the combat rings in my bag.

    I've heard good things about the LED drop-ins. I've heard good things about other light manufacturers. However, I don't believe SF to be THAT expensive. I think the piece of mind SF brings is worth any extra expense.

    # Posted 1 month ago
  8. kyglockman

    kyglockman

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    Joined: Jul '10
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    i have been carrying surefire tactical lights for awhile now! my two favorites are the e2d executive defender witch is small and light has a strike bezel and protective bezel over the button as well! but my knew one i have had for a bit is the e2d led defender! it is just a little bigger then the exec defender but the reason why i like it is that it has a 200 lumens and then a low setting at 5 lumens so when you need just a touch of light like i do at work quite often it does not run the bats down so quick! the 200 lumens of that thing that is just blinding! i carry it every where and the other one is just a back up now! i have had one issue with the smaller one when the pocket clip broke and one call to surefire and one was on its way in the mail! they stand behind their product no matter what!

    stay safe

    # Posted 5 days ago

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