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  1. Nckkangrga

    Nckkangrga

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    I am Interested in taking some of Rob Pincus's Courses. I would like to start from the absolute beginning and lean the fundamentals of shooting and precision shooting with a pistol. I would then like to work my way up and take as many courses as possible, My Fiancee will most likely be taking these courses with me. Any suggestions on which courses I should take?

    Thanks,
    Nick

    # Posted 5 months ago
  2. ChrisFry

    ChrisFry

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    Nick,

    Start right off with a Combat Focus Shooting course. This is Rob's/I.C.E. Training's entry level course and would be a good place to start.

    This link will take you to the calendar of upcoming classes:
    http://www.icetraining.us/training_calendar.php

    Good luck,
    Chris

    # Posted 5 months ago
  3. CharlesRives

    CharlesRives

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    When I shop for instructors now, I use DVDs as a screening tool. If an instructor can't present something well when they have time to script, perform, re-shoot and edit the material, then that really says something about how well they'll be able to present it live. A $25-99 DVD is a cheap way to screen before you invest maybe $500-2000 attending a live class. Also, you can do some remedial learning, leveling and understand the instructor's basic premises by pre-screening his or her class by watching the DVD beforehand. And, you can take notes and maybe show up with a list of specific questions from watching the DVD. That will really maximize the benefit from the in-person instruction.

    # Posted 5 months ago
  4. cshoff

    cshoff

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    That's a great idea and tip, Charles. That said, keep in mind that there are a lot of good instructors out there that don't have DVD's of their training courses available. With those instructors, I would ask a lot of questions about their particular training program(s), ask for references, and ACTUALLY CHECK THOSE REFERENCES. Any instructor worth his/her salt should be happy to provide references of past students who can vouch for his/her training program(s).

    Chris S.

    NRA Certified Pistol, PPITH, & PPOTH Instructor
    NRA Certified RSO
    Missouri CCW Instructor
    # Posted 5 months ago
  5. lcsd350

    lcsd350

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    All very good suggestions, just be sure to go out there with an open mind. Especially like the part of note taking and asking questions. Good luck and train hard. One of the best quotes I've ever heard is as follows: When the chips are down humans DO NOT rise to the occasion, we FAIL to our level of TRAINING.

    Train Hard!

    # Posted 5 months ago
  6. RobPincus

    RobPincus

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    Thanks for the interest in training with us, Nick. As Chris suggested, "Combat Focus Shooting" is the place to start. It is the first DVD in my training series for that reason and (as Charles noted) it is a great preview for the class itself.

    Here is a .pdf file of an AAR that Chris recently did on a CFS Course that he hosted:

    http://www.mdtstraining.com/AAR_CFS.pdf

    -RJP

    # Posted 5 months ago
  7. Zman05

    Zman05

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    Nckkangrga - My wife and I attended the CFS, that Rob and Chris reference above. The course in incredible. So much is packed in the two days, I would recommend bringing a notebook.

    Chris's AAR covers the course well. However, since you mentioned your fiancee taking the course, I wanted to share a little on my wife's experience at CFS. This was our first training course. My wife is not an experienced shooter only some CAS and some familiarity plinking. The course improved her confidence to the point that we are going to take a training course with Chris in April. She is much more comfortable with her XD and shooting in general. We actually discuss self protection rather than I just talk about it. I would never have guessed the difference two days and an excellent trainer would make in her confidence and ability. More importantly, she is aware of further skill development needed and is looking forward to Chris's course. If you have an opportunity train with Rob, you and your fiancee will not be disappointed. Take Care.

    # Posted 4 months ago
  8. ZenGunFighter

    ZenGunFighter

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    Clint Smith/Thunder Ranch is my first choice. Clint is just amazing as an instructor and Thunder Ranch has great facilities.
    I wouldn't focus all of my tra
    ining time with any one instructor though. Everyone has something to offer. And you will be better rounded, having trained under a number of different instructors.

    John Farnum/DTI is another of the gods in the firearms training world.
    Louis Awerbuck also is in the Pantheon of gunfighting instructor gods too.

    And don't become 'gun-centric'. Take classes in knife and unarmed fighting too. Mike Janich is very highly regarded.

    And for a full understanding of the entirety of the dynamics of a lethal engagement, I recommend Mas Ayoob's LFI I class at Lethal Force Institure.

    Eastern thought meets Western GunFighting
    # Posted 2 months ago

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