Comments on: Church Safety and Security https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/ Personal defense videos, classes and techniques for defensive skill development Mon, 16 Jan 2023 18:50:40 +0000 hourly 1 By: S ohms https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712471 Tue, 07 Jun 2022 02:09:26 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712471 Discounting the value of a highly trained “volunteer” team is a mistake. Our church’s team trains to a standard equal to most paid Law Enforcement. The monthly training includes subjects like emergency first aid, deescalation, communicating with irrational people, recognizing danger, escalation of force, active shooter response and lastly tactical firearms training and testing. The team is made up of active and retired LEOs, military active and retired and highly motivated civilians. All are held to the same high performance standards as active LEOs. A uniformed LEO is on site for most big events if arrest authority is required.

]]> By: Customer Service https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712459 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 18:47:20 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712459 In reply to rebckoz.

Hello Cary,

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]]> By: Bernie https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712458 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 18:35:37 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712458 In reply to Phillip Smith.

Why only past & present law enforcement? Recent history has shown us that they seem to lack the courage to act when it is needed. I’m sure not all are guilty of this, but have you considered past military combat vets?

]]> By: rebckoz https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712457 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 18:04:40 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712457 Hi Aaron, I know this article is about 7 years old already. But it certainly is as relevant now, perhaps more so.
I have a personal question I’d like to ask you and would appreciate your contacting me. Many thanks.

]]> By: Bradshaw https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712402 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 04:21:00 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712402 In reply to Bradshaw.

My Wow and Really was in response to the comments by David.

]]> By: Bradshaw https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712401 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 04:18:36 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712401 In reply to david.

Wow! Really?

]]> By: Cary Kozberg https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712392 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:30:55 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712392 In reply to Rahel.

Rahel–I attend a Chabad shul and the rabbi WANTS me to carry. The Chabad in Dayton also has armed congregants. One of my trainers is a Chabad rabbi in Cincy who is also an LEO. Of course, he carries on Shabbat. Not sure what sources your rabbi would be quoting. Clearly there is not one “orthodox” voice in this.

]]> By: Cary Kozberg https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712391 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:28:16 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712391 I am actively involved in educating my fellow Jews on the need to learn responsible firearm use-ESPECIALLY IN THE WAKE OF SO MANY ANTI-SEMITIC ATTACKS ON SYNAGOGUES, JEWISH INSTITUTIONS AND INDIVIDUAL JEWS. PSALM 144:1 IS ON MY CCW HOLSTER.

]]> By: Larry Arnold https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4712390 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 01:58:37 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4712390 A lone uniformed security officer can also be overcome simply by shooting him/her first. Then the killer has another gun.
Church security should also focus beyond the regular service. The church office may be a target of robbery, and there are other activities like choir practice which occur on a regularly scheduled basis.
A person on the local police “frequent flyer” list came to one of our practices looking for a member. We detected him in time to get her out of the way. Several basses and tenors (AKA men) surrounded him and made sure he didn’t start trouble until the police could arrive. I was carrying, but stayed in the choir loft so I wouldn’t be caught in the middle of things if they went south. The situation was resolved peacefully.
Knowing the law is vital. Down here in Texas, you shouldn’t have a designated “Church Security” team if anyone is carrying with a license. It can be a “Safety” team, or a “Friendly Greeting” team, but it’s an offense to wear anything that gives the impression that members are licensed security or law enforcement officers.

]]> By: Eric Dhillon https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/post/church-safety-and-security/comment-page-1/#comment-4121487 Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:10:35 +0000 http://personaldefensenetwork.com/?p=766#comment-4121487 I found this interesting, with solid information, but there is so much more to it than is covered (especially here in CA). I was asked by church leadership to form and organize a security team for my church just over 4 years ago. As a former soldier and contractor, it was believed that I was qualified to do so. My first step was to look at the legality’s here in CA. Let me tell you, once I started that part, I no longer felt qualified. It took me a little over 6 months of evenings and a lot of Saturdays to put together a “Policy & Procedures” manual for the team to operate off of. Then, as suggested by the author, I began to hand pick a team, mostly law enforcement and those with prior military service. I then added fireman/EMT’s to the team. I formed a 3 tier system. Tier 1 being armed response, Tier 2 being medical and support (are allowed to carry an issued taser after completing proper training), and Tier 3 is mostly “eye’s & ear’s” but also includes spots for high school youth that have an interest. Everyone must have medical training and “KNOW” California laws on “Citizens Arrest” Tier 1 & 2 have varying levels of advanced training for traumatic injury including gunshot wounds and proper tourniquet use. We use an electronic check-in/out system for children that prints a name tag with bar code for the child, and basically a “claim ticket” for the parent with a matching bar code. All “on-duty” team members have radio’s. we also issue radio’s to every room that will be used on any given Sunday. This has lead to calls for “Security” to kill a spider or two, but is worth it for the added safety. As the author suggest, once services start, we lock-down the campus so there is only one entry/exit point. We have first aid kits, stop-the-bleed kits, and flex-cuffs strategically placed around campus as well as some carried by team members. We have occasional issues with intoxicated or mentally ill, usually homeless. And upset ex-boyfriend or two. I could go on and on, but I don’t want to ramble. The important thing to me and this team, is we are trying to turn this into a ministry. We are using what we know, and what we have learned to help other churches and non-profits access and when needed, set up their own “Safety Team” or program without financial strain of hiring an outside firm to do so. There is a lot of groups and organizations out there that can help with this. But it comes with a price that may, or may not be worth it depending on your churches financial situation. God Bless and stay safe!

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