“Clip” vs. “Magazine” Gun Terminology

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“What’s the difference between clip and magazine?

Due to numerous societal factors, more people are interested in becoming defensive shooters. We should welcome and educate these new gun owners and not put them down. More law-abiding gun owners is a good thing! With that in mind, Rob Pincus talks about gun terminology: the clip vs. magazine.

A clip is what is used to hold multiple rounds together. A clips primary function is to speed up the loading of a magazine which would otherwise be done one round at a time. Watch PDN’s the magazine vs. clip video for more details.”

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59 Responses to ““Clip” vs. “Magazine” Gun Terminology”
  1. Alex s

    So it’s better to let a new shooter continue to use the wrong terminology then to teach them the correct? For instance they could call an ar15 an assault rifle and you know what they are taking about but you could explain to that person that it is not an assault rifle but a msr , or you could just let them continue.

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    • durabo

      Agreed! Same idiots who refer to “assault” rifles are the ones prone to refer to a “clip.”

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      • Sean Neeld

        Like Piers Morgan, who is probably the identity of Big sexy. I despise Piers for all his spinning buffoonery.

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  2. Lenny Sprague

    I think your right, there is a time and a place to make those comments and it should be in private in a convertation not at the range infront of others. we dont need to embarass anyone, when we know what it is there are talking about

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  3. Lisa P

    I think it depends on the circumstances and surroundings. Done right, you are simply educating someone who is new to shooting. You don’t have to be snarky, or an arse about it. As an instructor, it’s an opportunity to point out why one is called a “clip” and one a “magazine”. There is no reason to embarrass a new shooter, or student, over it.

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  4. Crucible Arms

    There is a difference between educating and being pedantic. You and I agree, You don’t need to be a “condescending ass”. Colloquialisms can lead to confusion so when appropriate, educate in an open respectful way. I know I appreciate it when people take the time and interest to educate me if they’re not being a “condescending ass” while they’re doing it.

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  5. justken2u

    Dem peeps is too parochial
    Treat newbies like a joke-ial
    ‘stead o’ rockin’ dat colloquial
    Wit uneducated folk-ial

    So stop being a pedanticist
    O’ ol’ time gun romanticist
    Wit ammo, bullets o’ anythang
    Da goes into dat gunny-thang

    (thot I’d break down my man Robbo’s words for da fellahs from da hood)

    Word.

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  6. Chris Knox

    @justken2u – Priceless!

    Actually, any knowledge-based community will be peopled with a substantial percentage of allegedly knowledgeable but annoying folks who love to correct every perceived nit of incorrectitude. They are easy to spot because they usually start their dim elucidations with “Actually…” “Actually” actually means nothing.

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  7. durabo

    Hogwash! If they are learning in a CCW or NRA class setting, they should learn proper nomenclature, since THAT is the moment to absorb data.

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    • Jonathan F. Rodriguez

      If they are in a class setting like the ones that you mention, then in that case yes, it would be appropriate to correct them. But just our of no where on the range is just annoying and pretentious.

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    • Sean Neeld

      Where does Rob mention this as something to do in a training environment? I missed it, I guess.

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    • Big sexy

      Thanks durabo, at least you and me don’t have our head up our as like Jonathan.he is the most ignorant ass who thinks he knows everything. Actually he shouldn’t even be allowed around firearms lmao

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      • Jonathan F. Rodriguez

        Wow, B.S. so much hostility. I am not ignorant in any way. And for someone that is pro 2A, saying that someone shouldn’t be allowed around firearms…tisk tisk tisk. U mad bro?

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      • Sean Neeld

        Awww, I thought you were going to leave, Piers? ” …will be deleting this subscription… … Bye bye”
        You don’t have to be so angry because you were pointed out to be wrong in numerous instances. It’s OK.

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        • Big sexy

          Sean and johnathon are lovers and are blowing each other.. What a bunch of FAGS lmao

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  8. Ernie

    in the classes I teach, I bring attention to both and explain the differences and after that I’ve haven’t’ had to correct anyone the class does it to themselves.

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  9. Big sexy

    Are you kidding me?there is a difference that why they have different names. I guess if someone calls the barrel a trigger that’s ok too.. I will be deleting this subscription . I enjoyed it up until now. How about calling it what it is. If you tell me to hand you a clip I’m gonna look for a clip not a mag.PDN you really surprised me with this one.. Most of your videos are just common sense anyways.. Bye bye

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    • Jonathan F. Rodriguez

      Wow, you are an ass clown! Seems to me that you were just looking for a reason to leave. You are missing the point of the video, which is to not be an ass hole to people that are new.

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      • Big sexy

        Johnathon, you call me “an ass clown”because I express my opinion.you are exactly what the guy is talking about, name calling and being an ASS. I’m sure you call them clips cause you are an ass clown rodriguez

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        • Jonathan F. Rodriguez

          I could call them whatever I want, but having to be right and correct someone who is brand new to guns and shooting just so you can show how cool you are, does indeed make you an ass. But with you leaving, I won’t have to read your wonderful comments anymore. Bye!

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          • Sean Neeld

            I believe he (Ron) was replying to Big Sexy. Look next to his name in the comment and you’ll see an arrow that points to another person’s name. That is who the comment is being directed at.

          • Big sexy

            So Jonathan, you are pro gun and all for the 2nd amendment but you are against freedom of speech?pull your head out of your ass mr gun expert. Who the hell is johnathan f Rodriguez anyways??

          • Jonathan F. Rodriguez

            Wow, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you got some strange hidden meaning from a simple comment of mine. You are making both the video above and my comments about something completely different than what they are clearly meant to be. Where did I ever mention anything about the first amendment? Where did I ever say that I was a gun pro? I can’t believe you are getting so worked up over someone who disagrees with you. I am sure you are even more fun to speak with in person! So thank you Big Sexy (who is Big Sexy anyway) for spreading your own strange agenda and misinterpreting very clear messages.

          • Big sexy

            John boy, I didn’t mention one thing about the 1st amendment.. I made reference to the 2nd amendment.. Pull your head out of your ass (as stated before)and read my comment over again

          • Sean Neeld

            Wow. That comment reminded me of Piers Morgan, which is not good. Wait, maybe Big sexy IS Piers Morgan. Or maybe this person (male? female?) just wants to stick around and be nonsensical after having said that they are leaving PDN. It’s so cute, I just went into a sugar coma.

          • Jonathan F. Rodriguez

            SO sad, BS, that since you lost the argument your last resort is to become over the top crude and just plain silly. Hopefully you are better at shooting than you are at debating.

        • Sean Neeld

          I believe he (Jonathan) was replying to Big Sexy. Look next to his name in the comment and you’ll see an arrow that points to another person’s name. That is who the comment is being directed at.

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    • Enkidu

      You are obviously one of those pendantic jerks he referred to.There is obviously a difference between a barrel and a trigger; just as there is a difference between a decent individual and an asshole who thinks he is smarter than the average bear.

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  10. David2u

    If I’m having a conversation with a newbie about handguns & rifles [especially when it comes to AR’s] and they misspeak and call a magazine a clip, if they are friendly and show genuine enthusiasm in learning about firearms …I have sometimes politely pointed out to them that clips are used to load magazines. Then explained that there are strips / clips that are used to load fixed & detachable magazines. I explain how for example military 5.56 rounds comes on strips and can be fed into a magazine using a stripper clip guide.. while some bolt rifles have fixed box magazines which are loaded through a open bolt. But I would never ever be condescending or sarcastic about it. Heck, before I went through basic training at 19 yrs old, I didn’t know what a stripper clip was or the difference between a magazine & a clip. We should exerciser tolerance & patience with others new to firearms.

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    • Big sexy

      I understand what you are saying David but this guy is suppose to be a firearms expert and basically said if they want to call them clips then let them. I think if you are training someone you should always teach correct terminology as well about the entire weapon but do it in a correct polite way

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      • Sean Neeld

        If training, then sure, let them know the difference. But, nowhere in this video or its description does it state this is to be done in training. At least I can’t find mention of training.

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  11. Ron

    IMHO, I think all Rob was saying is that there’s a time and a place for politely explaining the difference in a friendly manner (e.g. in a training course) and a time and place for not doing so, depending upon the situation and context. We gun owners should use the common sense and good judgment that the anti-gun crowd (including the media) does not use.

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  12. Sean Neeld

    Some people get the point of the video, some people don’t. And there are always those who flitter in to argue.
    I think attention should be paid to the written line in the video’s description “With that in mind, Rob Pincus talks about how you should not react if you hear someone mistakenly use the word “clip” when you are on the range or at the counter in a gun store. ”
    Nowhere in that sentence does the term ‘training’ appear. It specifically states (emphasis is mine) ” …when you are on the RANGE or AT THE COUNTER in a gun store.” Rob knows what he is talking about and many here agree. If this irks some folks so much, perhaps they are having a really bad day and they come to the internet to try to kick up a shit storm but fail miserably.

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    • SigShooter23

      Just a quick question then. If the teminology is inconsequential when you can infer the actual meaning, then is it right or necessary to make the distinction when someone refers to a modern sporting rifle as an “assault weapon”? I mean, you did know what they actually meant, right?
      Consistancy is important in sharing and discussing ideas and concepts – especially these days. Mislabeling and inaccurate defining often leads to the type of misconception and fallacy that is currently rampant in the media and on the left. More importantly, the uninformed middle ground get to be educated by these very sources, and it becomes an uphill battle from the start instead of fair, level and balanced discussion when these topics come up.
      It’s most definitely necessary to use tact and discretion whenever addressing these issues, but a “you know what I meant” disposition is not necessarily the best solution in the long run.
      Just my two cents…

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      • Sean Neeld

        Two different birds there, sir. I believe you’ve overstepped the bounds of the original video’s intent along with my comment. Your logic assumes I said something to mean that terminology is inconsequential. I did not discuss in my point above any sort of a “you know what I meant” disposition either. Let me reiterate, please. This video, this point being made is about not making an ass of yourself while at the range or gun counter when someone new to the gun world inadvertently calls a magazine a clip. This isn’t a training session at the range or in a gun store, so a detailed discussion isn’t what is being discussed. This video points out that there is no need to brow-beat a newbie over clip vs magazine while in a situation that does not call for it.

        As for my personal opinion, I agree with most of what you are saying. As you can tell, I plainly despise people of the media, such as Piers Morgan, who twist and turn words of others to fit their agenda. Then, if they are proven incorrect, they run and hide while we stand & deliver.

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        • SigShooter23

          Sorry if it seemed as such, as I wasn’t answering to any specific point, but rather the general flow of commentary from the video and responses. As to overstepping the bounds of the video’s intent, I don’t really think that’s the case. The video does start within a rather narrowly defined circumstance, but later moves into a much more generalistic reference to “anyone who says….and you know what it means, just let it go”. At that point, and this may very well be just my impression, he moved outside of the specific scenario and into a broad spectrum situational description.
          I do agree whole-heartly that anyone that is looking to become involved in the shooting sports in any capacity should be fostered along, and not denigrated or condescended to. We were all new at some point, and most anyone that’s been around in the shooting sports for long enough has had the “opportunity” to be on the receiving end of such conduct.
          Ultimately, I still believe that it comes down to tact and discretion. The objective, and I certainly agree with what I took to be Rob’s overall intent in this video, is not to alienate new shooters or anyone on the other side of the fence that has the potential listen and perhaps learn. I just don’t think that the “you know what they mean, so just let it go” policy is always the best way to deal with these situations.
          There are definitely times where addressing something like poor nomenclature is both inappropriate and offensive. But there are also opportunities to educate (again – with tact and discretion) that I believe can both help the individual and also the community at large to better communicate.
          Still, just my two cents…

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      • Sean Neeld

        Now, let’s say we were on a horrible media spinning show, and I’ll use that British bohunk, Piers Morgan as an example, and the interviewer talks about clips and assault rifles, THEN I say let’s calmly educate him again and again and again until he changes the subject and runs away.

        In a training class, I would hope the instructor takes care of that on his or her own.

        These are the times and places to take care of such matters.

        And that’s my 3 cents worth. Together, we have a nickel. Yippee!

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    • ColdGripVA

      I get the point of the video. What you may not be understanding is (1) that people (myself included) are tired of being told don’t say “XYZ” because you might offend someone and (2) Rob is perpetuating the image of gun owners as ignorant impolite asses who don’t know how to address a stranger at the range or a gun counter. I certainly appreciated people who helped me out when I was new to the sport. I’m perfectly capable of being professional and polite and don’t really need a “Daddy” to remind me to use my manners. That’s my 5 cents … now you have a dime.

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      • Sean Neeld

        On your point 1) I agree. I don’t give two shits (or 1 diarrhea) about being politically correct. And your point 2) I agree somewhat. I don’t think it perpetuates any image of self respecting gun owners, such as you and me, as impolite asses.
        It seems like you didn’t like the video and that’s perfectly fine. You have your opinion, which I agree with, and other’s have theirs. My gun handling was taught by drill instructors and fellow soldiers and God help us if we made a mistake.
        I do understand that there are ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS some folks in any sport, politics, and so forth, that will be to the far left and far right. Unfortunately, there are idiots on both sides of every issue who just make it worse for the side they support.
        (And my comment that you’ve replied to wasn’t a reply to your comment further up. My comment was just an addition to the overall conversation)

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  13. ColdGripVA

    When I was new to the shooting sports I was glad to have someone correct me when I misused terminology. I wanted to learn about my new endeavor. I didn’t consider them to be asses unless they acted like an ass, and that usually had nothing to do with whether they were helping/correcting me or not. They were generally asses long before that … btw – what would you do if they misused up-range vs down-range?

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    • Rob H

      ColdGripVA, I think the you touched on the main point of the video (as did some others). Simply put, it’s not that “correcting” is wrong it’s that “pedantic people” at the range are annoying (an opinion). There are “tactical” ways to inform people, meaning better, not right or wrong.
      I laughed my ass off at this video. I thought it was a great vid. We all know these people. They are usually the one’s that bud into a conversation because they cant resist the urge to point out that they know something. They do it to feel better about themselves not really to educate.
      I’m shocked someone would cancel a subscription because of something said in a comment and not the content provided by the subscription. Why take it on Rob Pincus?
      That’s a whole new topic maybe Rob should do a video about, Should thin skinned people carry firearms?

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  14. doug sayler

    Hey!!
    I like the part in the video when he said to put it (mag or clip) into the “gunny thing”.

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  15. Sam F.

    If you can see that their newbies I might “lead by example.” But. if their “Old hands” or should know better, I’ll leave it alone

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  16. PaCo

    Nothing screams COD like an idiot calling someone out on terminology of a piece of equipment, it seems that people are more worried about others thinking they have some sort of secret knowledge due to their knowing the proper term for crap then anything else.

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